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this is David Marler UFO researcher and

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you're listening to that UFO podcast

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everyone and welcome back to that uh UFO

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podcast my name is Andy and joining me

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for a bonus episode after last month's

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popular interview on a secret space UFOs

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Apollo 1-11 documentary I said I would

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get them back on to discuss his new Fast

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Walkers documentary and it's now been

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out for a couple of weeks I've already

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heard from some of you listeners who

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have checked out and you've really

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enjoyed it so it was no further Ado

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welcome back to the podcast star CBR hi

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Darcy okay I'm great how you doing Andy

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I'm very well uh listen let's get into

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this uh it seems like it came out

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quickly but we discussed it your

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previous documentary right before the

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new one was due to come out so like I

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say I wanted to get you straight back on

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um we did speak last month and we've

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covered our background uh in more detail

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then but just for anyone joining in this

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time uh what is your your background

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quickly Darcy and also why do you make

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documentaries about the UFO phenomenon

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my background uh you know I actually

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was studying film and video production

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as a younger lad and uh I ended up

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pursuing a career in I.T for a little

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while and then uh was Moonlighting as a

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filmmaker on the side and

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um I've always been interested in Fringe

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theories and in ideas that were not

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alone you know and um

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when I started documenting stories like

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this I started with some pretty zany

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ideas some pretty woo and Fringe

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thinking stuff

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um but I've made my way

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back to a very sort of Centrist way of

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looking this very objective way of

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looking at the UFO phenomenon and that's

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how I started looking into NASA and all

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these anomalies that have happened

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throughout space history to do with UFOs

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and um

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you know strange things happening in

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space and uh

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this recent documentary which kind of

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comes off the back of the Apollo era

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stuff that we were covering in in the

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last conversation we had it's called

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secret space UFO's fast Walkers uh

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because I really wanted to show that

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there are these there's a history

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of space-based UFO encounters that have

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happened in which the Air Force

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documented these anomalies as fast

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UFOs or unidentified objects that are

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looking like they move around with

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intelligent control ping-ponging in

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outer space around our planet sometimes

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entering the Earth's atmosphere and then

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leaving and uh

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you know we we start from 1973 after the

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Apollo manned missions had finished in

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1972 And we we start to cover the space

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incident Skylab 3 the first manned space

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station in which uh we have astronauts

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like Al Bean that witness a massive red

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glowing object that was two to three

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miles from the space station following

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them over Africa and um you know it was

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a a nine minute encounter and we cover

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the fact that the Air Force and these

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deep space satellite systems like the

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have been tracking fast Walkers and

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um space-based UFOs

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from the 1970s until now

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and uh NASA has been privy to a lot of

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this information they've uh had

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astronauts comment on the things that

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they've saw saw above Earth orbit

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um and they sometimes say we have an

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alien spacecraft under observance or we

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have a UFO we have an unidentified

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flying object and

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then we have videos and strange

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recordings that come from STS based

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missions and the ISS missions all

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throughout history leading up until now

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where look

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we're at the precipice of this May 31st

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give on

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in our day in our time

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you have just summarized about half my

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questions and that very succinct uh that

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piece so again it was in a bit more

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detail and to go back to the beginning

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that the term fast Walker for many is a

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newer term maybe from 2017 onwards you

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know New York Times articles and such

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but like you see it goes back decades

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years and I think that's a great

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argument when when people look at the

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Modern UFO phenomenon it's so easy to

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dismiss everything is drones

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everything's drones our secret military

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Tech and I don't doubt a lot of it

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probably will be but it's a great

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argument to say that you know we never

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had these kind of drones 50 years ago

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you couldn't walk into your local kind

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of hardware store and pick up a drone

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for 50 or 100 pounds whatever it might

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be you know for a cheap drawing uh these

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things were going at incredible speeds

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doing incredible things long before even

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our best technology could get anywhere

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near that weren't they yeah I mean if

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you're thinking about fast Walker cases

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where an object definitely not a drone

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or at least an earth-based drone I mean

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there's an argument that some of the

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UFOs we see out there might be

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technology that's observing us from a

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civilization or intelligence

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far far from here and that's the way

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that they're carrying out the beginning

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of their missions yeah

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documentary the uh

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s the DSP defense satellite program in

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which was launched in 1970s and finished

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in 1991. these were old satellite

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systems by today's standards that have

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have infrared sensors and all radio

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radio and radar detectors and they

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traced uh objects that came from deep

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space for example 1984 one came and

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parked within a couple miles of the DSP

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system and stayed within earth orbit

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and then left and researchers like Ron

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regare were responsible for this

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information being pulled out of the

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company that manufactured the DSP system

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it's called aerojet in California

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and over that those decades those three

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decades in which they recorded all of

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these deep space objects coming to Earth

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of fast Walker incidents that were

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recorded by the DSP system and these are

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only being recorded as fast Walkers

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because they're the most relevant

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they're the most

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earth-shattering groundbreaking

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territory but no one's really pretty to

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this information and it also lends one

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to think that the the defense satellite

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program was an operation of the dod the

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Department of Defense in the United

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States what else do they have you know

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and Christopher Mellon recently coming

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out after the Aero Congressional meeting

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saying that there is satellite imagery

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out there that is so high resolution

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pictures and videos of these objects

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you know he wouldn't say that unless we

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had tons of this information

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and I think they do I think it was um

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alluded to and rumored a few different

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Nimitz Princeton incident on a round

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table Kevin Day PJ Hughes and Gary

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they were talking about if if those

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objects those Tech tacks that were

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coming now reigning in and they were on

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radar and the the radar ceiling was 80

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000 feet and they were coming in from

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orbit then it would make sense that any

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any systems that were based along the

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coast to track missiles coming in from

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you know outside the atmosphere outside

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orbit whatever the language would be

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would also have caught those on their

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systems and sensors too so it's likely

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there was some very good data captured

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even for those types of incidents by all

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types of sensors that weren't just out

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on those ships and like you say even

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even in orbit as well and that's the

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modern stuff and you can imagine how

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good that will be if we've got

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satellites going back like you're saying

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to the 70s that have been manufactured

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probably in the 60s that managed to

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capture good data on UFOs in orbit in

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space and I think there's a lot of junk

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floating about in space for sure there's

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a lot of misidentifications we hear

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about ice crystals being reported all of

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that stuff is up there but there is very

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clear footage or as clear as it can be

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of objects moving at PACE slowing down

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speeding up changing direction and and

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keeping Pace or keeping track with other

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objects in space as well isn't there

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there's a lot of that tons

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the Tehran incident which we try to

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document really well uh which was

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another fast Walker tracking that the

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Tehran UFO which ended up being two UFOs

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kind of terrorizing this Iranian City

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the capital city of the country uh you

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know hundreds thousands of people

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witnessing this Mass witness event and

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the Air Force recorded the American Air

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Force reportedly going over and actually

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debriefing and finding out what really

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really interesting and then we go off

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the back of that to the STS missions and

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how that started up in the 1980s and

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went through to the thousands and

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all of the scientific implications of

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those missions because they were uh

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fantastic scientific Innovations for

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mankind and testing out things in in

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space uh for NASA but there were all

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these anomalies and objects that were

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recorded and reported on by the

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astronauts we talked about these voice

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recordings that we got from uh certain

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astronauts saying things on these

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recorded saying we have an alien

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spacecraft under observance yep

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what the heck

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but uh you know Dr Jack Kasher who

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covered that with Dawn ratch the

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investigator who recorded that

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um you know because the thing is

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a lot of people are space enthusiasts

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there's many people that still watch the

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NASA uh live stream downlink footage and

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look for anomalies and stuff and and

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look at all their missions and stuff

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space I we're ready to go you know if it

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becomes affordable and we can travel to

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space people will be doing it

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um that is

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an incredible new

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foreign territory for us all to get off

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planet and not everybody gets to do it

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and the people that have been privy to

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have witnessed really strange things

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when they have and we document in this

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documentary so many of these incidents

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where astronauts talk about and see and

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examine things and so we go from STS 29

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to STS 51 where we see this orb this

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metallic looking sphere that just kind

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of floats into view and it looks like

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it's analyzing what the astronaut is

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doing on the spacewalk retrieving a

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satellite

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them were launched on that mission

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and what we really find in these

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missions these STS videos which are

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recorded on space cameras that you know

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are extremely high tech extremely

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um

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robust camera systems that have to

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withstand the extreme environment of

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space right so extremely cold

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temperatures uh radiation exposure

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unfiltered light coming directly from

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the sun because there's no atmosphere to

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filter that stuff which were pretty too

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and they're shooting in a light spectrum

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often that cannot be seen by the human

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eye and I kind of relate to that in the

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film

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um to the Tic Tac or the Nimitz uh go

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fast gimbal UFO videos which you know

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you were talking about Kevin day they

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were saying that these objects came from

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above 80 000 you know feet so what's

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above that space right so maybe some of

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these objects are fast Walkers they did

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originate from space environments and

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that means that we have space agencies

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and satellites recording this stuff and

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with the STS missions they record in Far

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ultraviolet light

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Spectrum cameras which civilians usually

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don't even have that technology but NASA

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does and they're all over the craft

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they're Laden within the the uh NASA

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payload Bays on the multiple crafts that

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they have Atlantis Discovery Endeavor

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Columbia obviously two of those blew up

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uh Challenger was one of them that

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exploded

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um

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know led to loss of life and it's sad

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but these vehicles were high-tech they

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had amazing camera systems and they

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recorded all kinds of anomalies and in

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this documentary we're breaking down

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um you know the footage what happened

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throughout many decades of building the

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space station because really the STS

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missions their main goal was to launch

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satellites both military and

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um you know government satellites

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as well as

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outfitting and delivering new modules to

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build the ISS the International Space

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Station with those massive payload Bays

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would open up and they could take huge

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objects out of that

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and you mentioned just before we get

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enough other you mentioned a few

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different obviously uh incidents before

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Skylab what interested me with that one

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not just the instant but the language

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that was used by the astronauts I've got

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the quote was it was a satellite there

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were satellites like you would see on

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Earth and there's also satellites like

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you wouldn't see on Earth kind of

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dancing around the terminology and you

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hear that at times don't you almost like

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they're not sure what to say especially

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in some of those earlier missions where

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obviously you mentioned John Blaha who

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uses alien spacecraft is terminology but

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that is Skylab one where it's like

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there's a satellite like you would say

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on Earth but there's a satellite like

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you wouldn't see on Earth

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and that's it dancing around it's really

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interesting to me well what we try to

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document to in in this film is that

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obviously

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there needs to be some kind of

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coordination from NASA and their

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astronauts to be very cryptic and speak

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in a coded way when when dealing with

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public information regarding UFOs

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so

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um you you gave that example from 1973

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but we see all throughout the STS

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missions they say things like we have a

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fire

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right

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and then researchers or people that are

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listening to this or like there's a fire

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what you know if there's a fire on the

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space station that would be very

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distressing and you would hear all kinds

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of conversation back and forth between

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Ground Control and the astronauts right

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after but then there's a big dead space

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and later on you hear we have a UFO we

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have a

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unidentified uh or whatever but often a

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code word they'll say is like uh ice

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crystals right because that gives them

401
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an easy out to debunk what was caught on

402
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camera as ice crystals

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literally and and uh somebody who haunts

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me and follows me around he's probably

405
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in the comments from the last podcast

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That You released in which we had our

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interview about Apollo 1 to 11.

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um you'll find Jim oberg haunting the

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comments who's a former NASA employee

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and he came up with the thesis that what

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we're seeing in these videos is just ice

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space junk or other debris but it can't

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be in all the cases because especially

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when we look at these videos that he

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says that is you literally see objects

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descending down towards the Earth then

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going up above the Earth's Horizon

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moving into formations like a circle uh

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like space ice doesn't do that there's

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no way and Dr Jack Kasher a physicist

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and former NASA employee as well

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has been very argumentative with Jim

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oberg over his blanket statement that

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this is all just prosaic stuff

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so

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what NASA does to cover it up often with

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the astronauts so

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if you look at one of the later missions

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that we break down

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there's two different astronauts that

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report

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this UFO that seems to be flying in

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formation that's definitely not metallic

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uh

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possibly fabric

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in

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right a male voice says that and a

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female voice and they read it really

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slowly as if it is some kind of script

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that they are trying to

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relay information to Capcom or to

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Houston

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without giving away to the public on

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that channel that

445
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there is a metallic object yeah flying

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in formation over the shuttle and they

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don't know what it is you know so

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I think it's this cryptic code word

449
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methodology

450
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um that they they've been employing to

451
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cover up what they're seeing and fast

452
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Walkers is a code word you know UAP is a

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code word code words are always going to

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be in play when it comes to research and

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intelligence agencies that are

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strictly linked like NASA and the

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intelligence and defense agencies are

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linked they always have been

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um they're going to use code words and

460
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and uh you know I think we were talking

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about these space cameras before one

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thing I can say about the space cameras

463
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is that whenever we see this footage

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it's very often we see the same behavior

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of NASA

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recording these anomalies and sometimes

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quickly cutting the feed yep

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changing the camera uh direction to stop

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observing that object which you know any

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logical person would think why are they

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not

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like zooming in on it in some Mission

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footage we have seen them zoom in on the

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UFOs so they might have made a boo-boo

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and not followed the standard procedures

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but they also change to other cameras

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that don't have anything being recorded

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on them

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um and what

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Jeff Challenger an early NASA space

481
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footage researcher had done a UFO

482
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researcher

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he had realized that NASA had been

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putting a video filter basically adding

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Distortion over top of their clean Space

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video feed

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whenever they were recording stuff in in

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space yeah and that's that's another

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tactic too because then you can say oh

490
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you know it was just part of a video

491
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artifact or Distortion if people want to

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argue hey what was that on the footage

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do you know what the ace Crystal stuff I

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get sometimes that no doubt will be

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space junk absolutely there's loads of

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stuff in the atmosphere we see those

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images not even of satellites and where

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they are positioned around the earth and

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it's like it's a junkyard up there now

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as well

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um

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the tieran incident for example 1974

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like you say loads 1976 I believe

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we'll split the difference uh but if the

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pilots tried to shut down essentially a

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UFO and they lost their comms systems

507
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were garbled a smaller UFO come out of a

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larger object uh nothing happened when

509
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they tried to shut it down they couldn't

510
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even eject from their plane

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um that clearly wasn't a big Ice Crystal

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with a smaller lace Crystal coming out

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of it you mentioned the DSP satellite

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even picked up an infrared so there was

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Data backing it up as well there was a

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solid object and it was chased it was

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witnessed

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I I get though there must be times and

519
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I've seen loads of those incidents where

520
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the the NASA footage is filming a

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portion of the the ISS or some kind of

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portion of space and the camera points

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down and points away and zooms back and

524
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moves out of because some things came

525
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into range there are times though and

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I'm sure you'll agree maybe the US is a

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spy satellite or China has a spy

528
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satellite and that comes into view but

529
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that's not always the case and it's

530
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those interesting cases like you say

531
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where something shuts off or like you

532
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say you've got the footage where the

533
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circular objects form a circle and then

534
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another one comes into the middle and

535
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they're all staying still against the

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image of the camera and it starts

537
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lighting up and and it's not lighting

538
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anymore that's some fascinating stuff

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and

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I know we're going to get to talking

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about the the NASA study coming up as

542
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well but NASA's archive must be filled

543
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with with that kind of footage as well

544
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um and you must think what what have

545
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they managed to not have on there

546
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that we've not seen yeah

547
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um

548
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like what people have to realize too

549
00:24:28,450 --> 00:24:26,820
with these space cameras is that

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um

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they are recording all kinds of stuff to

552
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the NASA downlink and

553
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also on the space station and inside of

554
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the STS space shuttles

555
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um they have tons of high-powered

556
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cameras like Nikon cameras with amazing

557
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zoom lenses that the astronauts are

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taking photos and taking video

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recordings with and you know back in the

560
00:25:00,529 --> 00:24:57,720
day they even had camcorders you know

561
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:00,539
big old like shoulder things

562
00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:02,940
so they're heavily outfitted with

563
00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:06,120
cameras where does all that data go you

564
00:25:13,070 --> 00:25:10,260
know that comes back to Earth and

565
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,080
it is probably gone through by somebody

566
00:25:18,289 --> 00:25:15,360
at Nasa and

567
00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:18,299
I don't I I don't understand why NASA

568
00:25:25,370 --> 00:25:22,140
doesn't have a if it's truly just a

569
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:25,380
public civilian research agency why

570
00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:27,840
isn't there an archive for every single

571
00:25:33,049 --> 00:25:30,840
second of that space footage that's been

572
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,059
recorded from all the shuttle missions

573
00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:35,520
and the ISS missions is because

574
00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:37,380
some of that information needs to be

575
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,419
safeguarded some of the stuff that's

576
00:25:45,769 --> 00:25:41,760
being recorded on it for sure

577
00:25:48,289 --> 00:25:45,779
might be foreign intelligence craft

578
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:48,299
spy satellites

579
00:25:54,769 --> 00:25:52,080
um and in some cases UFOs from another

580
00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:54,779
origin and uh

581
00:25:58,370 --> 00:25:56,220
they're worried about that information

582
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:58,380
being public so they keep it to

583
00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:00,240
themselves

584
00:26:07,370 --> 00:26:02,940
um it's it's also interesting if you

585
00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:07,380
think about just space in terms of these

586
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:10,860
objects and how they move so the space

587
00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:14,960
station moves at 17

588
00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:17,460
150 miles per hour

589
00:26:22,970 --> 00:26:20,820
okay uh which is about

590
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:22,980
five miles per second

591
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:25,440
and if you're thinking of observations

592
00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:28,140
or videos being recorded by the space

593
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:30,299
shuttle I think it it moves at around

594
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,080
you know 14 000 to 17 000 miles per hour

595
00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:36,720
as well and

596
00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:39,720
you basically have objects that are

597
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:41,460
moving past

598
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:44,700
these the shuttle or the space station

599
00:26:50,990 --> 00:26:47,460
doing right angle turns

600
00:26:54,110 --> 00:26:51,000
um you know sometimes even stopping on a

601
00:26:56,269 --> 00:26:54,120
dime and moving into formation

602
00:26:59,930 --> 00:26:56,279
that has to be intelligently controlled

603
00:27:02,750 --> 00:26:59,940
that can't be just a prosaic object like

604
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:02,760
Ice Space debris or junk

605
00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:03,840
um

606
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:08,820
and uh and yeah I mean we were you were

607
00:27:13,610 --> 00:27:11,520
asking before like what else do they

608
00:27:15,409 --> 00:27:13,620
have that's what everybody's curious

609
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:15,419
about and and

610
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:19,440
um I wonder what this UAP research panel

611
00:27:24,649 --> 00:27:21,480
really was

612
00:27:28,130 --> 00:27:24,659
after and what they've been doing uh the

613
00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:28,140
15 scientists that were hired to look

614
00:27:34,190 --> 00:27:31,620
after and do a report on UAP

615
00:27:36,890 --> 00:27:34,200
uh when you listen to

616
00:27:38,269 --> 00:27:36,900
uh Sean Kirkpatrick who's the director

617
00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:38,279
of Vero

618
00:27:44,510 --> 00:27:41,580
he seems to say none of this seems to be

619
00:27:48,350 --> 00:27:44,520
anomalous enough to be like of ET origin

620
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:48,360
right but he does hand pass the buck off

621
00:27:56,169 --> 00:27:53,279
to NASA and he does in some Reports say

622
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,179
that NASA has

623
00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:57,840
more

624
00:28:02,730 --> 00:28:00,840
information than we have

625
00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:02,740
on these UAP

626
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:04,740
[Music]

627
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:08,100
issues and UAP reports

628
00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:11,279
what do they have and I think

629
00:28:16,370 --> 00:28:14,700
on May 31st 2023

630
00:28:18,289 --> 00:28:16,380
it's going to be really interesting to

631
00:28:21,649 --> 00:28:18,299
see what that ends up being and what

632
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,659
they end up releasing just before we get

633
00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:24,000
to that you have a right 1976 for the

634
00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:25,980
Tehran incident I could go and edit out

635
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,720
my mistake but I won't because you know

636
00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:29,520
mistakes are mistakes that happens but

637
00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:31,620
yeah 1970 I make them all the time trust

638
00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:33,720
me yeah for the purists out there let's

639
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:35,400
get the information right

640
00:28:39,289 --> 00:28:37,559
um yeah Buzz Aldrin is one of the most

641
00:28:41,330 --> 00:28:39,299
famous names on the planet if you say

642
00:28:44,029 --> 00:28:41,340
Buzz Aldrin people think astronaut space

643
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:44,039
you know is charismatic and is a very

644
00:28:49,070 --> 00:28:46,020
likable guy he has made some

645
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,080
phenomenally incredible claims on UFOs

646
00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:52,320
and has time usually on live TV

647
00:28:56,029 --> 00:28:54,419
um of all the folks who know what he's

648
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:56,039
talking about he he really should be one

649
00:29:00,169 --> 00:28:58,080
of them why do you think there are

650
00:29:02,990 --> 00:29:00,179
astronauts like Buzz Aldrin who are

651
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:03,000
happy to discuss seeing various objects

652
00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:05,220
and crafts and he's talked about

653
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:07,559
monoliths that are on other planets and

654
00:29:14,029 --> 00:29:11,279
moons yet others seem to tow the company

655
00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:14,039
line much better and are quite their

656
00:29:18,169 --> 00:29:16,260
isolated last for the UFOs object when

657
00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:18,179
I'm not saying everyone who goes into

658
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,220
space sees a UFO and sees an alien

659
00:29:24,289 --> 00:29:22,799
spacecraft but there seems to be a

660
00:29:27,889 --> 00:29:24,299
massive disparity doesn't there between

661
00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:27,899
a Buzz Aldrin and you know a lot of them

662
00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:30,960
were modern astronauts shall we say

663
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:33,480
well I think

664
00:29:39,289 --> 00:29:36,600
I think from this era where

665
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,299
you tell the part party line but because

666
00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:41,279
he's considered such a celebrity and

667
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:42,600
hero

668
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:45,600
um he feels also conflicted with the

669
00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:48,840
things that he possibly witnessed which

670
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:52,440
is he chased the UFO craft when he was a

671
00:29:59,149 --> 00:29:56,880
test pilot far before he went to space

672
00:30:02,029 --> 00:29:59,159
um according to testimony that I

673
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:02,039
featured in one of my docs and he also

674
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:03,120
um

675
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,320
you know was part of the report of a UFO

676
00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:08,880
which the

677
00:30:13,789 --> 00:30:10,919
um Neil Armstrong reported you know

678
00:30:15,409 --> 00:30:13,799
asked if the s4b should be anywhere

679
00:30:19,130 --> 00:30:15,419
around them when they were on the way to

680
00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:19,140
the moon during Apollo 11. and uh that's

681
00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:21,000
a really well documented case and I

682
00:30:26,269 --> 00:30:23,640
think Buzz Aldrin has changed that story

683
00:30:27,769 --> 00:30:26,279
over time he wants to talk about what he

684
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:27,779
really witnessed

685
00:30:31,789 --> 00:30:29,120
but

686
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:31,799
he's conflicted and knows he can't

687
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:34,559
because he swore an oath and

688
00:30:37,370 --> 00:30:35,340
um

689
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:37,380
you just don't talk about those things

690
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,580
unless

691
00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:40,399
your military

692
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:44,700
you know uh leaders say you can

693
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:46,860
um and he's a military guy essentially

694
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:49,080
right so

695
00:30:54,730 --> 00:30:51,120
I think other astronauts have talked

696
00:30:58,850 --> 00:30:54,740
about things they said there's uh Leroy

697
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:58,860
Chan who saw three flying lights when he

698
00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:01,919
was an STS astronaut

699
00:31:05,769 --> 00:31:04,980
um and uh there's

700
00:31:09,529 --> 00:31:05,779
um

701
00:31:13,250 --> 00:31:09,539
obviously story Musgrave that believes

702
00:31:14,990 --> 00:31:13,260
were being visited and has been uh very

703
00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:15,000
vocal about his theories on

704
00:31:18,730 --> 00:31:17,820
extraterrestrial Intelligence being out

705
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:18,740
there

706
00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:22,320
but they have to be careful because I

707
00:31:27,769 --> 00:31:25,980
think it's still such a woo subject for

708
00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:27,779
a lot of the world they don't want to

709
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:30,179
hurt their credibility and hurt their

710
00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:32,100
chances of

711
00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:34,919
um you know having a career or or being

712
00:31:40,210 --> 00:31:36,840
able to

713
00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:40,220
um be taken seriously by

714
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:43,860
their peers so

715
00:31:48,529 --> 00:31:45,840
um I think that it's

716
00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:48,539
becoming more mainstream now and I would

717
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:50,520
love to see other astronauts come

718
00:31:54,169 --> 00:31:51,360
forward

719
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:54,179
and talk about what they know or what

720
00:31:58,970 --> 00:31:56,640
they experienced in space in terms of

721
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,980
anomalies UFOs

722
00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:01,440
if any of them listen to your program

723
00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:04,140
please reach out to me I'm documenting

724
00:32:08,930 --> 00:32:06,840
this stuff like crazy and uh will

725
00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:08,940
continue to going forward

726
00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:11,220
you said in the doc in the documentary

727
00:32:16,430 --> 00:32:13,020
that the footage we see from the shuttle

728
00:32:18,409 --> 00:32:16,440
missions STS ISS is as compelling as the

729
00:32:20,269 --> 00:32:18,419
gimbal the Tic Tac and I can't disagree

730
00:32:22,490 --> 00:32:20,279
with that but why do you think it

731
00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:22,500
doesn't have the same impact why did

732
00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:24,840
that footage go viral yet the stuff

733
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:27,720
that's been online for years decades you

734
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:30,240
know on your YouTube on forums on on

735
00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:32,760
your VHS compilation tips from the 90s

736
00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:34,500
which I'm sure you'll be well aware of

737
00:32:38,690 --> 00:32:36,179
that used to sit on most video shelves

738
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:38,700
why has that stuff not had the same

739
00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:40,440
public impact

740
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:42,059
I think it's

741
00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:46,260
a matter of public opinion you know

742
00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:50,520
um it had a big impact on me and it had

743
00:32:57,049 --> 00:32:53,880
a big impact impact on parts of the UFO

744
00:32:58,610 --> 00:32:57,059
Community when that stuff was released

745
00:33:01,130 --> 00:32:58,620
um you know when I interviewed Martin

746
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:01,140
Stubbs in this documentary who's a

747
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:04,260
Canadian that was intercepting the NASA

748
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:06,960
downlink with his cable satellite

749
00:33:14,090 --> 00:33:11,039
systems at the company he worked at

750
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,100
um and recording that downlink footage

751
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:15,600
over

752
00:33:22,430 --> 00:33:18,960
you know a long duration during years

753
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,440
and years onto beta cam tapes and then

754
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:24,000
he would go through on a traditional

755
00:33:29,870 --> 00:33:26,760
editing system a linear editing system

756
00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:29,880
frame by frame uh on his nights and

757
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:33,539
weekends and find UFOs in space and that

758
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:35,519
was groundbreaking to me and that's why

759
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,380
I included him in the documentary as

760
00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:39,600
well to just show the history of this

761
00:33:45,889 --> 00:33:42,840
subject and people researching UFOs in

762
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:45,899
space and um

763
00:33:53,630 --> 00:33:50,880
I think that you will always have an

764
00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:53,640
interest in space and it's uh incredibly

765
00:33:58,430 --> 00:33:55,860
important now for us to document this

766
00:34:03,110 --> 00:33:58,440
stuff and have it uh well scrutinized in

767
00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:03,120
the public now that UFOs are

768
00:34:11,030 --> 00:34:05,340
for lack of a better word mainstream

769
00:34:15,649 --> 00:34:11,040
since 2017 it's become more uh studied

770
00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:15,659
and of interest to the mainstream so

771
00:34:20,770 --> 00:34:19,020
um part of my job uh documenting this

772
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,780
stuff is to

773
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:22,800
reinvigorate that interest and

774
00:34:29,149 --> 00:34:26,700
reintroduce it to uh the public the UFO

775
00:34:32,450 --> 00:34:29,159
Community as well as you know hopefully

776
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:32,460
get some eyes from the masses on this

777
00:34:35,089 --> 00:34:33,419
um

778
00:34:38,450 --> 00:34:35,099
because it is

779
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:38,460
equally as interesting as the Nimitz and

780
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:41,760
uh Tic Tac UFO footage for the fact that

781
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:44,399
this is being recorded by space cameras

782
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:47,760
by Harley highly

783
00:34:53,869 --> 00:34:51,960
um you know professional space research

784
00:34:57,770 --> 00:34:53,879
institutions

785
00:35:00,589 --> 00:34:57,780
a research institution and uh the

786
00:35:03,290 --> 00:35:00,599
technology is state of the art for the

787
00:35:04,450 --> 00:35:03,300
time and even today we you know farlight

788
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:04,460
infrared

789
00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:08,400
ultraviolet camera technology is

790
00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:11,820
high high quality technology right you

791
00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:14,220
can't see in that light spectrum so

792
00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:16,200
they're looking into space for something

793
00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:19,260
that's hard to see and UFOs are things

794
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,240
that are hard to see not everybody gets

795
00:35:26,410 --> 00:35:23,520
to see them some people see them and

796
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:26,420
it's a life-changing incident right

797
00:35:33,770 --> 00:35:29,280
experiencers and and Personnel from

798
00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:33,780
military and and space agencies and so

799
00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:34,380
um

800
00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:37,800
these videos are not like doctored

801
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,220
videos that are showing things that are

802
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,160
created with computer Graphics you know

803
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:46,800
they're not CGI

804
00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:48,720
um in these videos these are just

805
00:35:54,290 --> 00:35:51,060
objects that are being recorded on space

806
00:35:55,790 --> 00:35:54,300
cameras in in a different light spectrum

807
00:36:00,170 --> 00:35:55,800
sometimes and I think it's it's

808
00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:00,180
important to compare that to these gun

809
00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:02,760
cameras that we're recording Tic Tacs

810
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:05,940
and gimbals uh the gimbal go fast uh

811
00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:10,079
gimbal UFO because that again is gun

812
00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:13,560
camera technology on state-of-the-art

813
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,540
um aircraft that is recording in

814
00:36:22,130 --> 00:36:20,160
infrared you know in another light

815
00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:22,140
spectrum it's at the other end of the

816
00:36:26,990 --> 00:36:24,359
light spectrum that we can't see with

817
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,000
our human eye and but the military uses

818
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:29,520
that to see things that are hard to see

819
00:36:34,010 --> 00:36:32,160
which are UFOs

820
00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:34,020
so let's bring it right up to modern

821
00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:36,119
times right almost there ahead of

822
00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:37,800
ourselves because as we record this

823
00:36:41,630 --> 00:36:39,480
we're a couple of weeks away from that

824
00:36:44,089 --> 00:36:41,640
NASA study wrapping up when it was

825
00:36:46,609 --> 00:36:44,099
announced it was pretty low budget and

826
00:36:49,010 --> 00:36:46,619
seemingly a preliminary study to see if

827
00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:49,020
there was a further study to be had and

828
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:50,700
the recent confirmation of that press

829
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,980
called for the 31st of May says and I'll

830
00:36:57,530 --> 00:36:55,440
quote it's it is not a review or

831
00:37:00,770 --> 00:36:57,540
assessment of previous unidentifiable

832
00:37:03,290 --> 00:37:00,780
observations the report will inform NASA

833
00:37:05,450 --> 00:37:03,300
on what possible data could be collected

834
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:05,460
in the future to shed light on the

835
00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:08,220
nature and origin of UAP so I think

836
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:09,540
they're trying to set the stall out

837
00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:11,940
early that this was a look at what we

838
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,040
should or could look at

839
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:16,320
um what do you expect NASA's study at

840
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:18,780
this point then to show and what do you

841
00:37:24,829 --> 00:37:22,260
hope it potentially lunges into

842
00:37:26,770 --> 00:37:24,839
well yeah I mean they even say you know

843
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:26,780
it's in in accordance with the federal

844
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:30,480
advisory committee act NASA will be uh

845
00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:33,660
looking at these anomalous phenomenon

846
00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:37,140
independent study uh team and they and

847
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:39,900
they will be meeting on Wednesday May

848
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:43,140
31st at 10 30 A.M

849
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:47,220
to 2 30 PM eastern time and they will

850
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:51,000
have the live broadcast on NASA dot go

851
00:37:55,010 --> 00:37:52,160
live

852
00:37:58,190 --> 00:37:55,020
and public participation is going to be

853
00:38:01,310 --> 00:37:58,200
available so the public people are going

854
00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:01,320
to be allowed to upvote questions to see

855
00:38:05,870 --> 00:38:03,420
if those could be asked and answered by

856
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:05,880
this research group

857
00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:10,609
the agenda of the meeting and the slides

858
00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:13,079
will be presented and available on a web

859
00:38:18,050 --> 00:38:15,480
page as well so

860
00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:18,060
um I think we will find out more I think

861
00:38:22,370 --> 00:38:21,000
they will say some of the stuff that

862
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:22,380
they've been looking at that's been

863
00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:24,480
coming from you know

864
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:26,040
um

865
00:38:32,930 --> 00:38:30,480
UFO reports and then they're trying to

866
00:38:34,970 --> 00:38:32,940
interact with the public on this subject

867
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:34,980
because they know that there is such a

868
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,400
interest globally right now in this in

869
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:41,040
this issue you know

870
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:44,720
um and I hope that they're able to

871
00:38:52,190 --> 00:38:49,320
present details on the fact that some of

872
00:38:53,690 --> 00:38:52,200
this stuff is definitely anomalous

873
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:53,700
enough

874
00:38:59,230 --> 00:38:55,920
that it can't be considered from a

875
00:39:03,290 --> 00:38:59,240
foreign adversary or from possible

876
00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:03,300
military uh programs that are being

877
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:05,460
carried out by the American

878
00:39:15,650 --> 00:39:13,550
uh that's what I hope I'm I'm not quite

879
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,660
sure like

880
00:39:20,569 --> 00:39:18,240
if you're

881
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:20,579
if they're expecting it's supposed to be

882
00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:23,119
uh you know

883
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,420
a private media based presentation first

884
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,520
uh Chrissy Newton was saying that she's

885
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:31,920
actually uh you know you're friends with

886
00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:34,079
Chrissy I am too she's part of the

887
00:39:37,849 --> 00:39:35,700
debrief and they're going to be actually

888
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:37,859
brought into the initial session that's

889
00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:41,040
going to be a private media presentation

890
00:39:46,849 --> 00:39:43,500
and then they're going to go live to the

891
00:39:48,829 --> 00:39:46,859
public with uh the rest of it

892
00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:48,839
I don't know I mean

893
00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:50,940
um I think they're just trying to also

894
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:52,980
present the idea that they're interested

895
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,400
in UAP but in my series I'm trying to

896
00:40:00,650 --> 00:39:57,839
present the idea that they've always

897
00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:00,660
been interested in the UAP off the

898
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,800
Record

899
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:03,839
uh I think I think your series shows

900
00:40:06,890 --> 00:40:05,160
that they have to have been interested

901
00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:06,900
in UAP because these things are

902
00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:09,000
presenting themselves aren't they over

903
00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:10,920
and over and over again across the

904
00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:12,300
decades

905
00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:15,240
um Gary Nolan in the last 24 hours has

906
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:17,400
gone viral whether he wanted to or not I

907
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:18,720
don't know if you've seen this from the

908
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:21,839
salt conference the salt conference and

909
00:40:25,310 --> 00:40:23,880
his comments about your APS

910
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:25,320
um I want to know what do you think and

911
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:26,640
I'm going to be covering this and people

912
00:40:29,569 --> 00:40:27,839
listening to this will have heard

913
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:29,579
various shows on it by this point and

914
00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:31,980
seen the social media comments uh do you

915
00:40:36,349 --> 00:40:34,380
think we're building towards an

916
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:36,359
explosion of information finally coming

917
00:40:40,609 --> 00:40:38,520
out from official channels the

918
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:40,619
government NASA hearings officials

919
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:43,260
military or are we going to be still

920
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:46,079
here in 20 years time me running a

921
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:47,700
podcast talking about disclosures coming

922
00:40:52,310 --> 00:40:50,880
you're on the Apollo 40 to 49 missions

923
00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:52,320
you know we're back on demand missions

924
00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:54,660
and we're seeing things what do you

925
00:40:59,329 --> 00:40:56,339
think where are we going to be Darcy

926
00:41:02,030 --> 00:40:59,339
yeah I think um you know I covered this

927
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:02,040
also in fast Walkers Stephen Bassett

928
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:04,740
profiles what developments are happening

929
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,640
in Congress in terms of uh new laws to

930
00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:11,040
protect whistleblowers

931
00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:16,380
um new laws in in these uh

932
00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:18,780
basically

933
00:41:26,270 --> 00:41:23,460
trying to unify intelligence and defense

934
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,280
organizations on the idea that their

935
00:41:31,069 --> 00:41:28,560
personnel can come forward with accounts

936
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:31,079
that they've had or experiences that

937
00:41:35,690 --> 00:41:33,119
they've had with UAP

938
00:41:38,569 --> 00:41:35,700
and to protect those people so they can

939
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:38,579
speak to organizations like arrow and

940
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:41,280
apparently Arrow has had multiple people

941
00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:44,220
come forward from military backgrounds

942
00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:46,380
that have given their testimony on very

943
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,560
credible UAP incidents that have

944
00:41:53,329 --> 00:41:51,119
happened in history

945
00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:53,339
and um

946
00:41:59,630 --> 00:41:56,940
I think if you have laws being passed

947
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,640
and that type of uh whistleblower

948
00:42:02,810 --> 00:42:01,440
protection

949
00:42:06,829 --> 00:42:02,820
um

950
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:06,839
information out there and a growing

951
00:42:12,589 --> 00:42:10,560
interest in the public and NASA being

952
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,599
part of the

953
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,640
um you know research of unidentified

954
00:42:20,109 --> 00:42:16,800
anomalous Phenomenon with their

955
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:22,730
that points to me that this is going to

956
00:42:28,609 --> 00:42:25,680
go mainstream in a big way and there

957
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:28,619
will be some kind of official disclosure

958
00:42:33,710 --> 00:42:31,680
I don't can't say for sure it's going to

959
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:33,720
be this year you know I'm not as

960
00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:37,440
confident as John Ramirez on that uh

961
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:40,040
topic but

962
00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:43,200
we're we seem to be going down a road of

963
00:42:49,010 --> 00:42:45,720
mainstream disclosure and uh whether

964
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,020
that's later this year or next year or

965
00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:51,599
the year after I don't know but I think

966
00:42:56,589 --> 00:42:53,099
there could be

967
00:43:00,829 --> 00:42:56,599
um something especially you know if

968
00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:00,839
there there might be some kind of um

969
00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:08,089
um aggression happening between our

970
00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:11,099
foreign adversaries and

971
00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:13,980
uh North America and their allies you

972
00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:15,060
know

973
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:17,880
well hopefully not but yeah there's a a

974
00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:19,260
lot of cards on the table right now

975
00:43:22,970 --> 00:43:20,700
potentially to be played in the

976
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,980
geopolitical situation shall we say uh

977
00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:24,720
Darcy brilliant speaking with you again

978
00:43:28,609 --> 00:43:27,000
so soon um and just to finish up can I

979
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,619
ask you what you're working on next if

980
00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:31,200
you've got anything in the pipeline I do

981
00:43:34,970 --> 00:43:33,060
have a couple projects in the pipeline

982
00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:34,980
which are you know I can't really talk

983
00:43:40,609 --> 00:43:37,800
about right now but I promise if people

984
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:40,619
check out fast Walkers and uh they like

985
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:43,380
that it's going to be more of the same

986
00:43:50,329 --> 00:43:46,740
you know very well documented factual

987
00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:50,339
information where we show as much

988
00:43:56,349 --> 00:43:53,940
um you know documents and videos and

989
00:43:59,569 --> 00:43:56,359
testimony that prove that something

990
00:44:02,569 --> 00:43:59,579
historically is going on uh with

991
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,579
something very interesting that that has

992
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,800
to do with UFOs so I'm working on two

993
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:06,480
different projects

994
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:09,900
um uh right now and uh I'm really

995
00:44:15,230 --> 00:44:13,380
excited to present more stuff uh later

996
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,240
this year but thank you so much for

997
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:18,000
having me on if people like my work I

998
00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:19,440
really appreciate

999
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:21,660
um you know a star rating or a review

1000
00:44:28,609 --> 00:44:26,040
left on Amazon Prime and uh iTunes like

1001
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,619
these types of platforms because it

1002
00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:31,200
helps others understand you know what

1003
00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:33,480
they're actually going to be observing

1004
00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:37,319
and uh yeah I really appreciate uh you

1005
00:44:41,809 --> 00:44:39,540
having me on and uh your audience is

1006
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:41,819
really cool and uh really well informed

1007
00:44:44,809 --> 00:44:42,839
people

1008
00:44:46,609 --> 00:44:44,819
I'd like to think so and you can get it

1009
00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:46,619
on those platforms I'll put the link in

1010
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the description g-e-n-i dot us forward

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slash fastwalkers and it's on all the

1012
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:52,619
usual streaming platforms like you've

1013
00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:54,240
mentioned there too that'll be in there

1014
00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:55,619
thank you very much for joining me Darcy

1015
00:44:59,329 --> 00:44:57,000
and speak to you again soon

1016
00:45:01,370 --> 00:44:59,339
thanks brother have a good one that is

1017
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all for this week's show thank you very

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looking up you never know what you might

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because it doesn't really scare me

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consider your eyes

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thank you

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